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PostPosted: 28 Jan 2013, 22:55 
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Buzzer's Gutter Breaker

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whats this 4 point deduction on the website weve had about?, again cant read it cos the link doesnt open?

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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 28 Jan 2013, 23:10 
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Mick Galloway's Pointed Finger
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If anyone has a problem opening a News item, try the following:
delete the browser cache data, usually through the tools menu.
or try a different browser.

Works for me fine with Firefox and IE9

It appears to be a similar problem to why this forum was 'offline' it was there all the time but some people couldn't access it for some reason.

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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 28 Jan 2013, 23:11 
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Kyle May's Disallowed Goal

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Will Vaulks was not registered to play in the games at Gainsborough (1 point) and Altrincham (3 Points). Tranmere forgot to send in the paperwork.


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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 28 Jan 2013, 23:23 
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Jonny Wright's Cross/Shot

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Why are we being penalised because of Tranmere's ineptitude? Did we not have some mechanism in place to assure that this was being carried out?


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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 29 Jan 2013, 00:39 
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Our BOD should have made sure he was registered. And it seems we have been kept in the quiet about this until after it had happened.
We are being run quite amateurish at the moment.

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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 29 Jan 2013, 03:01 
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Mick Galloway's Pointed Finger
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"Despite the FA receiving and acknowledging his registration, the Conference argued that the club had failed to notify them although the members section on the Conference website indicated to us that the club had registered him."

The club appealed to the FA but they upheld the Football Conference decision.

Sounds like we got shafted by both the Conference and then the FA.

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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 29 Jan 2013, 06:14 
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Buzzer's Gutter Breaker

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seems very harsh indeed especially when hes registered online however i suppose the board/club must take some blame. A club like tranmere could forget to send paperwork for a player on loan 3 leagues below surely it wouldnt be top of their to do list that day maybe we could have double checked but i dont really know the ins and outs.

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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 29 Jan 2013, 12:41 
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Alan Gray's Biceps

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Nice of us to publicly blame Tranmere, bet they think twice about dealing with us again

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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 29 Jan 2013, 14:17 
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The fa will do all they can to get us a "northern team" relegated if we had finished 3rd bottom in the last two seasons we would have been relegated they would rather keep a southern based team in the blue square north the FA stands for F*****g Ars****s

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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 29 Jan 2013, 14:27 
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http://www.footballconference.co.uk/new ... ws_id=8899

JOKE!!!! Hinckley United FC only got deducted 3 points for failing to pay football creditors.

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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 29 Jan 2013, 14:48 
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Sorry, but when you read the relevant section of the Conferences statement 'Referring to the rule under which the charge was brought, the FA Appeals Panel emphasised it was a club’s responsibility to ensure the eligibility of its players and, since the sentence imposed by the Conference was mandatory, the sentence could not be considered excessive. It was our own fault. If you give your missus your pools coupon to post and she stuffs it in her handbag and forgets about it, it's not her fault, it's your responsibility to ensure it gets posted!!


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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 29 Jan 2013, 18:11 
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It says it all when the official conference page says 'Worthington deducted four points.'

So Durham resigns, I assume it's because of this. If it is, the club should have refused his resignation. One mistake, he has done a lot for the club. There are people in the current set up who have done a lot worse and are still involved.


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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 30 Jan 2013, 09:44 
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Tony Hopper's M.O.T.M

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Taken from the Non League Digest.............

WORKINGTON SUFFER FOUR-POINT DEDUCTION
>From http://nonleague.pitchero.com and The News & Star

Blue Square Bet North club Workington have been hit with a four-point
deduction for fielding an ineligible player. Will Vaulks played against
Altrincham and Gainsborough Trinity in October, but documents to extend his
loan from Tranmere Rovers were not completed. Reds have also been fined
GBP500. Borough Park officials blamed the mix-up on their League One
counterparts. The deduction will see Workington drop two places to
seventeenth in the table - just four points above the relegation zone.
Despite appealing the FA's ruling, the sport's governing body upheld its
decision. Reds blamed Tranmere for forgetting to send the necessary
paperwork to the Conference. In a statement, they said: "It is with much
regret that we have been deducted four points and fined GBP500 for playing
an ineligible player (Will Vaulks) against Altrincham and Gainsborough. This
came about due to Tranmere Rovers forgetting to send the necessary paperwork
to the Conference in time on our behalf. Despite the FA receiving, and
acknowledging, his registration, the Conference argued the club had failed
to notify them. We feel strongly that in the circumstances, the penalty was
severe, and the fine harsh. Despite travelling down to Wembley, at
considerable expense, the FA upheld its original decision."


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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2013, 19:25 
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Interesting to see that Salisbury City (Blue Square South) have been fined £100 and docked 1 point for playing an ineligible loan player after a paperwork problem. Is this not the same offence for which we were fined £500 and docked 4 points. Something wrong somewhere!


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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2013, 21:17 
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Marc Green's Own Goal

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Don't know the facts of the Salisbury case, but presumably they only played the guy in 1 game and gained 1 point whereas Vaulks played twice in a win and a draw?

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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 04 Mar 2013, 08:43 
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Marc Green's Own Goal

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Red Ray wrote:
Don't know the facts of the Salisbury case, but presumably they only played the guy in 1 game and gained 1 point whereas Vaulks played twice in a win and a draw?


Correct RR :

http://www.salisburycity-fc.co.uk/club-statement-3


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 Post subject: Re: points deduction
PostPosted: 04 Mar 2013, 17:27 
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Jonny Wright's Cross/Shot

Joined: 12 Jul 2010, 16:05
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It seems strange that paper work to the Conference somehow does not get there. It is never their fault of course even though the FA paperwork is up to date.

What this says is you can not treust the Conference organisation - full stop

Interestingly if a side palyed an ineligible plyrer and they lost the game - presumably there is no points deduction. The offence is surely in playing an ineligible player not in the result of the game - but hey what do I know about logic when you have the Conference heirachy there sitting in judgement.

Football is no longer about 11 men on each side kicking a ball - its about men in suits who can determine a season for a club. - wonder why this never happened in the old days!!


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